Wiki code for Solve Fedora 10 preupgrade-caused logging issues

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1: When using {attach:’preupgrade’|http://www.google.com/search?q=f10+preupgrade} (in my case from f7 to f9 and then f9 to f10), you note that your logging will die. The /var/log/messages and /var/log/secure will just remain empty.
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4: It appears the issue is that the logging system changed sometime after f7, and there’s a weird dependency-inconstency that prevents removal of the old logging system, prior to installing the new one. I noticed this after seeing a new daemon ’rsyslog’ on fresh-installed fedora 10 systems that didn’t occur on the upgraded ones. I believe you’ll know you have this issue if you do "chkconfig --list | grep log" and nothing comes up.
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6: Here’s what I believe i had to do, on two systems, to re-enable logging after upgrade. Warning, brute-force is involved, comments appreciated:
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9: <blockquote>{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}golem-136-&#126;> sudo yum install rsyslog{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}Setting up Install Process{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}Parsing package install arguments{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}Resolving Dependencies{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}--> Running transaction check{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}---> Package rsyslog.x86&#95;64 0:3.21.9-1.fc10 set to be updated{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}--> Processing Conflict: sysklogd conflicts rsyslog{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}--> Finished Dependency Resolution{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}sysklogd-1.5-5.fc10.x86&#95;64 from installed has depsolving problems{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}  --> sysklogd conflicts with rsyslog{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}Error: sysklogd conflicts with rsyslog{style}\\\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}golem-137-&#126;> sudo yum remove sysklogd{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}NOTE: This uninstalls >700 packages:  __*don’t do it*__!{style}\\\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}golem-137-&#126;> sudo rpm -e sysklogd{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}error: Failed dependencies:{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}        syslog is needed by (installed) initscripts-8.86-1.x86&#95;64{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}        syslog is needed by (installed) cronie-1.2-7.fc10.x86&#95;64{style}\\\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}golem-138-&#126;> sudo rpm -e --nodeps sysklogd{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}error reading information on service syslog: No such file or directory{style}\\\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}## installing, then removing, syslog-ng seems to fix things{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}sudo yum install syslog-ng {style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}sudo yum install rsyslog{style}\\{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}sudo yum remove syslog-ng{style}\\</blockquote>\\
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11: After reboot, note that the proper behavior of logs happens again!! (’messages’ and ’secure’ were both 0-length prior to the fix):
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13: <blockquote>{style:type=span|font-size=12px|font-family=courier new,courier}  /var/log:\\  total 3716\\  drwxr-xr-x 17 root    root       4096 2009-01-15 10:49 ./\\  -rw-------  1 root    root      42080 2009-01-15 10:41 messages\\  -rw-------  1 root    root       1007 2009-01-15 10:38 secure\\ ...\\  -rw-------  1 root    root          0 2009-01-04 04:02 messages-20090111\\  -rw-------  1 root    root          0 2009-01-04 04:02 secure-20090111\\{style}\\</blockquote>\\
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